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A different kind of trust is placed in a new Toyota truck when you drive it off the lot, as it carries the badge with decades of reliability behind it. That trust is reinforced by the smoothness of the ride, the feel of the controls, and the belief that it will serve you well for years to come. But sometimes, even with the newest models, signs start to appear that something might not be quite right. That’s why when I found a post by Tyler Garvey in the “2023-2025 Toyota Tundra Owners” group on Facebook and discovered the opposite of what Toyota usually represents, I had to take a closer look.
Tyler owns a 2024 Toyota Tundra Platinum and recently performed his third oil change at just 17,000 miles. What he discovered during that routine service raised some serious questions not only for him but also for the growing number of owners who are starting to notice signs that all may not be perfect under the hood.
Tyler shared his concern, writing: “Doing my third oil change at 17,000. The truck got the oil changed at 10k. Did my first oil change at 12k after I bought it. I noticed some sparkle on the second oil change but more on the third. One of the metal flakes is almost 1/8”. Should I be concerned and what steps do I need to take? I have a 2024 Tundra Platinum.”
When Metal in Oil Isn’t Just Break-In Debris
At face value, it might sound like a small issue, but for those who know what to look for, metal flakes in the engine oil are often the first red flag pointing to a deeper and potentially destructive mechanical issue. While some degree of debris is normal during engine break-in, especially early in a vehicle’s life, the increasing amount Tyler observed between his second and third oil changes has set off some alarm bells in the community.
But understandably so. Toyota’s twin-turbocharged V6 engine powering the new generation of Tundras has already faced scrutiny. Some owners have already reported that what began as a simple oil change ended with the shocking news that their engine needed full replacement due to contamination, which suggests issues like this one aren’t entirely isolated.
While Tyler’s 2024 model isn’t currently part of that official recall for the ’22 and ’23 models, the fact that he’s spotting this level of metallic debris makes one wonder: is this a one-off issue, or are we seeing early signs of a broader problem that could eventually expand to newer model years?
The Community Weighs In with Advice and Warnings
Some commenters on his post offered helpful, experience-driven advice. Dave Kelley, for example, emphasized the importance of documentation: “Keep your receipts and pictures from the oil changes. If your engine fails, Toyota will want proof that you did the oil change with the recommended oil and at the proper mileage.”
With the increasing complexity of modern engines and the potential for factory-related defects, the burden of proof can fall on the owner. Tyler may very well be covered under warranty should something go wrong, but without clear maintenance records, he could be left fighting an uphill battle.
Others, like Brooks Younce, tried to help diagnose the issue: “If the flake particles are magnetic then they may be bearing material. If they are not magnetic, they are likely from the engine casting which can be normal.”
This is actually great advice for any owner in a similar situation. Magnetic shavings often point to steel components like bearings, which could suggest internal wear. Non-magnetic particles, meanwhile, may be aluminum or other materials leftover from the casting process. While the latter is less worrisome, the presence of larger, visible metal chunks should still not be ignored.
Then there’s Matt Hyman, who offered his opinion: “There’s nothing you can do until it happens sadly. It will be covered under warranty. Even vehicles over 60k are being good willed. We have 2 ‘24s seized right now at our dealership.”
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That last sentence is not a good thing to hear. Two 2024 Tundras that are already seized is a sign that some of these engines might not be as bulletproof as buyers hoped. There have been stories of owners facing breakdowns in shockingly short time frames, including those who experienced complete failure just days after taking delivery of their new Tundra, so there might be something negative brewing for Toyota as time goes on.
Oil Change Interval or Bigger Design Issue?
But not everyone in the comments was so forgiving. Mark Malone questioned Tyler’s oil change intervals, writing: “Why are you doing your first oil change at 12k? That might be your problem right there, as well as voiding your warranty. Anything over 5k is a market ploy. They get to plant the flag to the automotive world that their vehicle has low cost of maintenance. They benefit, you don’t. These aren’t the Toyotas that are 20 years old. They can’t take abuse. They need a 5k oil change regardless of what you see in the manual. No one ever lost a motor by changing their oil 5k instead of 10.”
While that might sound harsh, Mark’s point can’t be ignored. Modern turbocharged engines run hotter, harder, and rely on much tighter tolerances than their naturally aspirated predecessors. Stretching oil changes to 10,000 or even 12,000 miles might technically fall within Toyota’s official maintenance schedule, but it’s not necessarily the best decision for engine longevity.
I will say though, a lot of owners are finding themselves unexpectedly impressed by Toyota’s refinement, features, and drivability, as one former Chevy owner shared after making the leap and realizing they wouldn’t go back.
Will the Engine Recall Eventually Expand?
Now, to be fair, Toyota did act on the initial engine recall in 2022 and 2023 non-hybrid Tundras. Their response was to clean up the machining process that had left metal debris in the engines. Toyota claims that 2024 models and beyond use an improved assembly process to eliminate this risk. But as more owners like Tyler begin to post about finding similar metal flakes in their oil, it raises a legitimate question: are 2024 and 2025 Tundras truly in the clear? Or are we simply in the early stages of another wave of engine-related concerns?
I think it’s worth acknowledging both sides. On one hand, automakers can and do refine production processes with each model year, so it’s reasonable to believe that Toyota’s 2024 updates genuinely reduced the risk of internal contamination. But on the other hand, it would be naive to completely rule out the possibility that some units built in the 2024 model year might still have lingering quality control issues.
When even a few brand-new trucks seize up, it casts a shadow of doubt. Until Toyota openly addresses these cases or confirms that the engine recall won’t be expanded, owners should stay alert, keep excellent records, and follow conservative maintenance schedules.
Key Takeaways
- Metal flakes in oil aren’t always a disaster, but large or increasing amounts, especially after the break-in period, warrant serious attention.
- Magnetic vs. non-magnetic particles can help determine the origin: magnetic could mean bearing wear; non-magnetic might just be casting residue.
- Keep meticulous records of your oil changes. This includes dates, mileage, receipts, and photos. It could be the difference between a covered repair and a denied claim.
- Shorten your oil change intervals. Regardless of what the manual says, switching from 10k to 5k miles could extend your engine’s life, especially in turbocharged trucks.
- Stay engaged with the Tundra community. Other owners are often the first to spot patterns, and you might learn about a hidden issue before it becomes your problem.
- Toyota is still winning over drivers, especially those who made the leap from other brands and quickly found themselves appreciating what the Tundra has to offer.
What Do You Think?
Is Toyota’s quality dropping with these new generation vehicles? Or is the badge still holding up its reputation?
And for those of you who own a ’22 Tundra or beyond, what has your experience been like so far?
I’d love to hear your insight in our comments section below.
Image Sources: The “2023-2025 Toyota Tundra Owners” public Facebook group.
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