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In Alaska, a reliable truck isn’t just a convenience; it’s a lifeline.
Why is Gerald Nance looking at his 2023 Tundra TRD Pro with a gnawing feeling of unease?
It’s a beast of a truck, with a cavernous interior that has served him well in Alaska. But the series of nagging issues at the dealer, from the time his truck stalled in the middle of a snowstorm to the constant rattling in the cabin, has shaken his faith.
In the back of his mind, he can’t shake the question of an engine recall he’s heard whispers about for the 2022 and 2023 Toyota Tundra models, which reportedly involves issues with the twin-turbo V6 engine and the 10-speed automatic transmission.
And then there’s the new kid on the block: the 2025 Tacoma Trailhunter, a midsize truck designed for off-road adventures with rugged, overland-ready features.
Its smaller size and rugged, overland-ready features are appealing to him. He doesn’t need the Tundra’s full capacity for towing or hauling, and he’s always preferred the more nimble feel of a midsize truck.
Would it be a sound move even to consider a trade, or would he be an idiot to even think about it?
It all depends on who you are asking.
Let’s hear from Gerald, who shares this on the 2023-2025 Toyota Tundra Owners Facebook page.
He says, “How much of an idiot would I be to trade my 23 TRD Pro Tundra for a new 2025 Tacoma Trailhunter?”
“I like the styling of both. I like the roomy Tundra interior, but I like the smaller outer size of the Tacoma. I don’t carry passengers, nor do I tow often (an occasional motorcycle trailer). I won’t be using either one to their full potential; I just like them.”
“I live in Alaska, so there’s lots of snow.”
“My Tundra is great, but I’ve had more little issues the dealer needed to fix than any other Toyota I’ve had over the years, so I don’t entirely trust its reliability. Are those even on the engine recall horizon? So far, I’ve heard nothing.”
What are the advantages of a Tacoma vs the Tundra?
The 2025 Toyota Tacoma offers several advantages over a potentially unreliable 2023 Toyota Tundra, including better off-road capability, potentially improved reliability, and potentially lower maintenance costs.
While the Tundra is a full-size truck with more towing capacity, the Tacoma’s midsize design prioritizes agility and maneuverability, making it well-suited for off-road adventures. Furthermore, the Tacoma is known for its substantial resale value and aftermarket support, which could be a game-changer for Gerald.
For Tundra Owners Considering the Tacoma
Advantages of the 2025 Tacoma:
- Fuel Efficiency: Midsize trucks like the Tacoma generally offer better fuel economy than full-size trucks like the Tundra, making them more economical for everyday driving.
- Maneuverability: The Tacoma’s smaller size makes it easier to park and navigate in urban environments compared to the larger Tundra.
- Potential for Lower Maintenance: The 2025 Tacoma, with its newer design, might have fewer potential issues compared to the 2023 Tundra, which has been reported to have some engine and transmission problems.
- Off-Road Capabilities: The 2025 Tacoma has been upgraded with features like an improved suspension and front tow hooks, making it a strong contender for Alaskan off-road adventures.
- Newer Technology and Features: The redesigned Tacoma offers the latest technology and features, including potential improvements in areas like infotainment and driver-assistance systems.
Potential Advantages of the 2023 Tundra:
- Towing and Payload Capacity: Full-size trucks like the Tundra offer superior towing and payload capacity compared to midsize trucks like the Tacoma. However, Gerald only tows a small motorcycle trailer.
- Cabin Space: The Tundra generally provides more interior space for passengers and cargo. Gerald says he doesn’t carry passengers so this is a non-issue.
Addressing the Potential Unreliability of the 2023 Tundra:
- Engine and Transmission Issues: I have reported on the 2023 Tundras having engine and transmission problems, including issues with the twin-turbo V6 engine and the 10-speed automatic transmission.
- Toyota’s Response: Toyota has reportedly addressed some of these issues with recalls and service campaigns.
- 3.5 Generation: Some owners were initially planning to wait for the 3.5-generation Tundra due to concerns about the third generation, but their experience with the 2025 Tundra has led them to believe the third generation has improved.
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Which is better in the snow, a Tundra or a Tacoma?
In snowy conditions, the Toyota Tundra generally performs better than the Tacoma due to its larger size, more powerful engine, and potentially better traction and stability control systems.
While both trucks are capable with proper tires and 4WD, the Tundra’s weight and power can help it plow through the deeper Alaskan snow and maintain momentum, according to some YouTube commenters and Reddit users.
However, the Tacoma’s smaller size and maneuverability can be advantageous on tighter trails and in deep snow where momentum isn’t as critical, according to some Reddit users.
Here’s a more detailed breakdown:
Toyota Tundra: Pros
- More powerful engine, especially the V8 (in older models) and the V6 twin-turbo with hybrid options (in newer models).
- Generally larger and heavier, which can help in deeper snow and provide more stability.
- TRD Pro and other off-road packages offer advanced features like multi-terrain select and crawl control for enhanced traction.
Cons:
- It can be more challenging to maneuver on tight trails due to its larger size.
- It may have slightly worse fuel economy than the Tacoma.
- It may be more expensive than the Tacoma.
Toyota Tacoma: Pros:
- More maneuverable on tight trails and in deep snow, where momentum isn’t as crucial.
- TRD Off-Road and TRD Pro trims offer excellent off-road capabilities with features like ATRAC and rear lockers.
- It’s more affordable than the Tundra.
Cons:
- It may struggle in deeper snow due to its lighter weight and potentially less powerful engine.
- It doesn’t offer the same level of comfort and space for passengers as the Tundra, especially in the back seat.
In Conclusion:
The 2025 Tacoma is a strong contender, especially for those prioritizing fuel efficiency, maneuverability, and potentially lower maintenance costs. While the 2023 Tundra offers superior towing and payload capacity, its potential reliability issues should be carefully considered.
Would Gerald be stupid even to consider trading his 2023 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO for a 2025 Tacoma Trailhunter?
Not at all. What he needs to know is that Toyota has issued a recall for the 2023 Tundra TRD Pro, and he is likely eligible to get a new engine, even if it hasn’t had a catastrophic failure.
However, he should also be aware that he may face a lengthy wait for the engine replacement. If it does fail, he will now have to deal with that problem.
He also needs to consider that the 2025 Tacoma is in the first year of production and is not without its reliability issues.
Specifically, there are reports of transmission problems with the 8-speed automatic transmission, including rough shifting and even failures requiring replacement.
Additionally, some owners have reported electrical system glitches, including complete battery drain and wireless phone charging pad issues. Toyota has also issued recalls related to the rear brake hoses, which may be susceptible to damage from debris buildup.
So, What Would You Do?
We want to hear from Tundra owners who have made the switch to a 2025 Tacoma. If so, click the red Add New Comment link below and let us know your thoughts. Are you happy with your decision?
Check out my 2023 Toyota Tundra story: 2023 Toyota Tundra Owner Says, “While Driving On the Freeway, I Suddenly and Without Warning Get a Low Oil Pressure Alert and the Engine Shuts Down. It Was a Terrifying Experience”
I am Denis Flierl, a Senior Torque News Reporter since 2012. My 30+ year tenure in the automotive industry, initially in a consulting role with every major car brand and later as a freelance journalist test-driving new vehicles, has equipped me with a wealth of knowledge. I specialize in reporting the latest automotive news, covering owner stories, and providing expert analysis, ensuring that you are always well-informed and up-to-date. Follow me on X @DenisFlierl, @WorldsCoolestRides, Facebook, and Instagram
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